TokyoTosho v3 Request for Comments

[Starks]

Also torrents with  hiragano, kanji dispaly is to be translated so computer who cant display them properly can know what is it.

No. That's stupid and would never work. Converting Japanese to English or romaji is never accurate.

[Argent]

I wish the Hentai were subdivided into three main descriptors: Manga/Doujin, Anime and Games.

You could call them H-Manga, H-Anime and H-Games.

I agree or at least have a game flag and hopefully posters will use it.  Many times I have d/l'ed only discovered it was a game and not a movie.  The manga is is not too hard to spot because of the size..

BTW also add H-Graphics (or Pictures) for those game rips (hopefully posting will be drawn and not photo...)

The same break down could be applied to Anime as well, thus A-Manga, A-Movie/Anime, A-Graphics...  Hope it will not be TO confusing!!! 

[Milo]

A-Manga, A-Movie/Anime, A-Graphics

These don't make sense.
Anime-manga? wtf? lol.
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What if I made a link for visitors to say, N people voted this file was a fake, wrong section, or other predefined statement?

That might be good, but it seems restrictive. Someone may just want to say "I really like this group and their episodes are great." Or something else positive. Of course if comments are difficult to implement or whatever that's one thing, but barring technical issues, I still think comments are more reliable. I can see some asshat marking a file as fake and it may be a less popular one so no one downloads it at all because one person marked it fake. If some jerk wants to say a file is fake, he would have to go through the effort of actually writing it out in a comment and that alone can deter juveniles. Again, with anidb as an example, you usually have people with well thought-out opinions that type up a little descriptive paragraph about the file. This of course depends on the type of community that visits any given site, and I have to admit I'm not familiar with the vibe around here - so maybe you would know best, Edward, that ratings are better.
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I have another suggestion:
With the possible implementation of categories based on group, on search terms, on series, etc, I think it would be useful to have statistical interpretations available. Two different (yet similar) ideas:

'Search Cloud' -> What search terms people are using most per day/week/month etc. Here is an example.
I know that's the second time I've pulled an idea from Mininova (I don't think they were the first ones to do this search cloud, however.), but that doesn't mean it's any less of a good idea.

'Popular [X]' -> Popular series, groups, categories, files - based on variable time frames (day, week, month, season, year, all time).

Here is my reasoning:
1) The search cloud is damn cool.
2) When a new season starts and a bunch of new series come out, I want to know what it is that everyone else is so excited about. I don't want recommendations from individual people, I want raw statistics, I want to know what everyone is watching and then go look it up on Anidb to see if I'd like it. Just the fact that many people are downloading something indicates that it could very well be a good show and is at least worth checking out. The same thing applies to groups, to files and categories, etc. Invaluable information, imo, to help people discover new shows they may be interested in.

I think that at this point, I may be asking for too much. It's one thing to propose a feature change here and there, but another thing entirely to do ask for the above. 
Or is it? I'm not sure (obviously, I'm not the one that has to code all this ) But I think it fits in with the new structure well enough. It seems natural to be able to generate statistics based on the possible categories, no?
I'm not sure. But I hope to see something like this!
*hopes*

All's well though, I get my search-based rss - which is exactly what I wanted originally. 

[Edward_K]

In the mean time, we've got http://tokyotosho.com/topsearch.php

As for categories, I'm thinking of making them tags instead of categories. That is to say, one can assign multiple categories to the same entry. I suppose that would mean if something is categorized as "Hentai" and "Game" it would show up on both if one were to look at only "Hentai" or "Game".
Suggestions on how to handle this?

[Dante_Q]

That Topsearches page is pretty usefull, to see what's popular at the moment. But maybe you can also create one for the last 24 hours, instead of just the last hour, so you get a more accurate and average result.

[Milo]

In the mean time, we've got http://tokyotosho.com/topsearch.php

That is awesome, is that something that you just whipped up or has it been hiding there all along?

As for categories, I'm thinking of making them tags instead of categories. That is to say, one can assign multiple categories to the same entry. I suppose that would mean if something is categorized as "Hentai" and "Game" it would show up on both if one were to look at only "Hentai" or "Game".
Suggestions on how to handle this?

Quick rough draft:

Format (can only pick one)
    Video {Anime, Drama, Other}
    Audio {OST, Other}
    Image {Manga, Collection, Other}
    Software {Game, Other}
Language
    Primary {Japanese, English, etc}
    Secondary {Japanese, English, etc}
    More?
Audience* {Hentai, General}

*Maybe this as a single tag with no 'General' and instead an implied general audience if there is no hentai tag

[Dante_Q]

In the mean time, we've got http://tokyotosho.com/topsearch.php

That is awesome, is that something that you just whipped up or has it been hiding there all along?

As for categories, I'm thinking of making them tags instead of categories. That is to say, one can assign multiple categories to the same entry. I suppose that would mean if something is categorized as "Hentai" and "Game" it would show up on both if one were to look at only "Hentai" or "Game".
Suggestions on how to handle this?

Quick rough draft:

Format (can only pick one)
    Video {Anime, Drama, Other}
    Audio {OST, Other}
    Image {Manga, Collection, Other}
    Software {Game, Other}
Language
    Primary {Japanese, English, etc}
    Secondary {Japanese, English, etc}
    More?
Audience* {Hentai, General}

*Maybe this as a single tag with no 'General' and instead an implied general audience if there is no hentai tag

This might be quite usefull, only you will have a lot of trouble with the older already posted torrents. And it might be better to split the first category up, because there are a lot of anime and Live-Action Drama's out there with exactly the same name, and that would give confusion, so i would like to suggest:

Format (can only pick one)
    Anime {Anime}
    Video {Drama, Music Video, Other}
    Audio {OST, Other}
    Image {Manga, Collection, Other}
    Software {Game, Other}
    Hentai {H-Anime, H-Manga, H-Games}
Language
    Raw (Japanese)
    English
    Non-English

[Milo]

The way I have the tags set up I was thinking of having 'Video' and 'Audio' and such as being kind of implicit 'umbrella tags'. When a person submitted a torrent, for instance for clannad or whatever, they would select 'Anime' and this would assign the 'Video' tag as well as the 'Anime' tag to the file. This way you could search for any video file for clannad (like maybe a music video or a drama should they ever release one). As another note, I left 'Raw' files out on purpose, because I was thinking that if there was no secondary language tag at all, then the file would be implied as being 'Raw'. We could take this further by saying only files with a primary language as Japanese, and no secondary language, would be raws (to avoid English dubs being considered raws).

This might be quite usefull, only you will have a lot of trouble with the older already posted torrents.

How so? Almost everything would transfer over cleanly, or at least in a manageable way. With language in particular, I think the system needs to be expanded for non English files, and so yes, there could be problems. But, it's not as if we have to go back and identify all the non-English files and figure out what they are, we can at least leave them as they are right now and set the secondary language to 'other' or something, and then move ahead with new torrents and labeling them properly.

And it might be better to split the first category up, because there are a lot of anime and Live-Action Drama's out there with exactly the same name, and that would give confusion

Confusion? How? There is a drama and an anime tag. Where's the confusion? 'Video -> Anime' 'Video -> Drama'

As a side note I'm not familiar with 'Drama' as it were. Is it better to call it 'Live Action' instead maybe? Is it all drama? Maybe there's some comedy in there; I never understood why it was called drama when it might very well be some other genre of Japanese live action. 

Format (can only pick one)
    Anime {Anime}
    Video {Drama, Music Video, Other}
    Audio {OST, Other}
    Image {Manga, Collection, Other}
    Software {Game, Other}
    Hentai {H-Anime, H-Manga, H-Games}
Language
    Raw (Japanese)
    English
    Non-English

In terms of using the tags as searching tools, I think my way is more intuitive. The hentai tag (or flag since it's by itself lol) can be used in conjunction with any of the other tags. This removes the need to have a whole separate section just for it, making the whole system simpler. This can create Hentai Image Collections then, for the poster up a little ways that asked for that category, and even.... Hentai OSTs?  Hey why not? The point of a tag system is to allow flexibility.

--Edit--
I've been thinking of how to add Music Videos to this, and I think the best way to do that would be to remove the restriction on the first category of tags completely. This makes a search for a song turn up any music videos as well, and also expands the possibilities for popular fan-made music videos. I don't think the people who upload torrents for us are such colossal idiots that they would think to tag a file as both Anime and Drama, unless it really were both. Example: A "Mega Death Note Upload" including the Anime series, the Manga, The Drama, and the OSTs. The proper tags could be something like this: "Video -> Anime, Drama" "Image -> Manga" "Audio-> OST" "Language1 -> Japanese" "Language2 -> English"
I've edited my rough draft accordingly.

[Gamble]

if it was possible to tag torrents that are not downloadable through the RSS feed (who said nyaatorrent ? :p ), it would be nice

[Milo]

I couldn't edit my posts anymore for some reason, so here is a new one.

Format
    Video {Anime, Drama, Other}
    Audio {OST, Other}
    Image {Manga, Collection, Other}
    Software {Game, Other}
   
Language
    Lang1 {Japanese, English, etc}
    Lang2 {Japanese, English, etc}
    More?
   
Audience
    {Hentai}

So, I believe this covers everything important.
Do you guys think there is anything it doesn't cover?
The audio section is a little sparse, are there any general tags that could be used to divide it a little more? I can't think of any.
Edward hasn't said anything yet so we'll see what he thinks. Maybe he hates it.

Examples:

A raw from some series:
Video -> Anime
Lang1 -> Japanese

A Music Video with scenes from Fullmetal Alchemist and some random American rock song. There are no subtitles.
Video -> Anime
Audio -> Other
Lang1 -> English

A dual-audio anime hentai with softsubs:
Video -> Anime
Lang1 -> Japanese, English
Lang2 -> English
Hentai

Nodame Cantabile Anime, Drama, OST and AMV:
Video -> Anime, Drama
Lang1 -> Japanese
Lang2 -> English
Audio -> OST, Other

I started making tags for air date and date of submittal, along with one for group and one for series, but I thought keeping the tag system simple would be best.